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ليش لا 11-07-2011 05:25 AM

good morning miss. hope

may Allah makes your days filled with happy and joy


i really wish that i can help you with anything i can



i know what it feels like to be tired from thinking too much

smoetimes i feel that my brain is like 110v device plugged in 220v plug

لدي أمل 12-07-2011 03:40 PM

No theres nothing... I'm over. doubt I will have anymore existence

Memories tons that feel like they aren't just memories but they all just happened on the top of the list is a violent sexual memory the happened through a friend of 9 yrs was more than a sister this wasn't too long ago... deceiving and strange how people change and can be so evil..

Cruel cold mean family (FATHER).. I would LOVE literally to live on the street instead of with them

HEALTH... they say my situation is actually really bad and something could happen but they wont hospitalize me and the medical system is trash..

I ate my first tiny mean very late last night otherwise the last time before that was on Friday!!! I'm very dehidrated but wont give me fluids in the blood even though I can barely even drink just barely sips of water... ZERO to barely any sleep over a month

High blood pressure reaching the highest according to my memory 177/110 and untreated and they refuse because according to my symptoms they think that there is something wrong with my kidneys which is core explanation for the BP and the stomach issues so if they treat the dehydration the blood preasure will go up than they think a complication will happen to my kidneys which they think has an issue but there not sure and they send me home as I am and tell me to follow up in the outpatient and the outpatient oppointments are at least a month away.. The ER do nothing and if you push they fight and say go to the outpatient and they outpatient says wait at least a month to two months Ridiculous... Are they kidding me.. and the ER say is actually dangerous to have your fast big weight loss conteniuing with the symtoms your talking especially if it's long term so you seriously need to get the closest meeting with a doctor and the other say wait and you get angry and still get no where

not to mention your father getting in the way acting like he cares out of no where when he has been shouting at you over a month when ever you say u need to go to the doctor saying oh nothings wrong with you no living the house

so I thought maybe he is willing to change is he is believing that theres something... We go and he ends up fight shouting loud at me in public in the hospitail making people saying things like you are a mentally disturbed person... than walking away and from far in the hall way shouting when you get home I am taking your car keys away and will have another way with you

I've done nothing to deserve this... no treatment no nothing no freedon no sleep no rest no food no water no peace of house personal room or mind from anything

I broke down again yesterday in front of my mom hysterical crying and they issues with breathing like a panic attack losing my mind very stressed tired overwhelmed feeling sverly preasured

you know what she does!!!?? She says I need to leave I'm going to be late I have an oppiontment of dying my hair!!!!!!!!!!!1 go to get dressed and leaves you home alone

after about an hour you push yourself to go out to do things you father will kill you if u don''t cause he has been pushing and he cares about is a job.. so your alone when you shouldn't been driving tired and fuzzy thinking and you feel you are going to faint and you send a message to your mother telling her by the way I am feeling very sick nauseous and faint... She calls much later than before hearing what she have to say she saying oh I need to hang up busy with something getting her hair done!!!!

so I am home no fathers outside and will leave again before he comes and really does take my keys away... I will try with the hospital one more type...

Otherwise I think I hd enough and I don't see anything to be breathing for... extremely hurt FRUSTRATED angry pressured....the list can continue

Theres more than was mentioned too... Today is it I've been suffering for quit a while and today is the day where i just cannot handle it anymore

Don't know what to do extremely depressed losing my mind I'm in very bad mental state

ليش لا 13-07-2011 02:31 AM

miss. hope

may Allah helps you and make your life happy

Ameen



i want to say someyhing but i don't know much about you

? you finished college , right

why don't you find a job

if you have money you can think of something to do

maybe living alone

i don't want to say this , but i have a similar problem

i hate my father , and i'm waiting to graduate so that i can leave the house for good

and my psychological problems are because of him

لدي أمل 13-07-2011 12:11 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة ليش لا (المشاركة 674317)
miss. hope

may Allah helps you and make your life happy

Ameen



i want to say someyhing but i don't know much about you

? you finished college , right

why don't you find a job

I have a job.. It will start in September though not now, but in about two months. I was going to cancel it, but my therapist didn't agree and I thought well he probably not even probably but does know better... So I kept the job, even though I'm seriously worried how I will do in job in the state I'm in... Still keeping it though

if you have money you can think of something to do

maybe living alone

I have thought about that, and really want to do that.. your forgetting though that I'm a girl.. Unmarried girls in our society don't live alone.. Divorced yes there are.. Unmarried and young too ALONE!!?? I don't care about how rare it is, because you need to do what you think will make things better


The issue is what if my father gets angry, and reports to the police that I ran away.. I have no say in such a situation.. I doubt they would even return me back with my dad... From I have seen is they put girls in the psychiatric hospital... Then what do I do!!!?

I need to search about it.. I wonder if there is a certain age in the law where I can be allowed to live alone.. or anything in the law.. Doubt there is though..

I want to convince my father myself without resorting to the law.. I want him to think himself that me living alone is for the better of all of us, because I don't see how it's possible to live together in the same house... Were going to kill each other!! Maybe if he want make changes, but he doesn't want change, and he thinks he is the perfect father.. He is also very selfish.. He only thinks about himself and want would make him peaceful... Anyone else heh NOOOO... He thinks he has the right to act and treat people however which way he want, BUT everyone else must treat him like a king regardless of his words and actions

You can't show that your upset, irritated, angry,... etc You must think like him and agree with all his opinions OR ELSE.... ETC ETC ETC

WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS!!!?? THE MASTER AND RULER OF MANKIND


i don't want to say this , but i have a similar problem

i hate my father , and i'm waiting to graduate so that i can leave the house for good

You are a male so you can do that. Hopefully you will have some peace of mind soon and can focus more on in what you want in life

and my psychological problems are because of him


I don't understand seriously how a parent can act like this in such a way, and coldly hurt their own son/daughter... I can never imagine myself doing that if I ever had a child of my own... It's mind puzzling, and I don't think I will ever understand HOW!! It's true sometimes peoples past makes cold harsh people, but I would think you wouldn't want your child to suffer like you... U know what it's not worth thinking about I'll shut up .. I'm a person will a big heart who can't understand how you can become so heartless...

Regardless of all the hurt he has and is causing, I still care, love, and worry about him.. I may say the word hate, but I don't know how to hate my heart easily becomes tender again and I give people excuses and chances ALL the time no matter what kind of treatment I got

I just prefer to think we are humans and we make mistakes.. I think nobody becomes the way they are out of the blue, there's a reason for how/why they became the way they are... We aren't born cruel and heartless... You never know how other peoples INNER worlds are like.., sometimes u can and sometimes u can't

Even if you did know their inner world if they don't want to change there's nothing you can do... It's harder if they're blind and really believe there's nothing wrong with them

We are a product of our experiences and how we wish to think.. How we deal with things too.. well which relates to thinking.. I think I repeated myself.. no I didn't repeat myself.. yeah I didn't... Whatever the point is clear and that's what counts



ME I am focusing on trying to rest, relax, and take of my health because finally I caught a good doctors attention and my situation as they say is critical.. so I have a lot of urgent test and she has been talking to departments to make space for me as an urgent case in order to get all the exams done as fast as possible... and what she is think is the issue is related to a hormon I know about from a past presentation I did in univ., but didn't it cross my mind.. It made perfect sense ad light bulb clicked in my mind... HIGH level of cortisol are dangerous in long terms will make your body it's own enemy lots of things... It leads in long terms to cushing's syndrom which has stages and the forth stage if you don't get quick and fast treatment you die.. I can't believe it

The things HIGH long term cortisol do leading to cushing's syndrom are not something that has put my mind at peace.. knowing that I just found out and had signs a long time ago because they a lot of symptoms and only a few of the all don't match and it is making perfect but scary sense.. and the doctor is scaring me more repeating the words critical and urgent and the look in her eyes... like what I'll die...

Even my sever moods depression issues thinking I was losing my mind wondering why all the knowledge I know to cope is getting me no where... it explains it all every over the top mental symptom and all the physical

The bad thing is it caused my long term constant mental stress... stopping stress heh.. I can only laugh, but it's not funny at all...
By far it's not an easy nor moderate mission.. It's very challenging because of the way my life has become worsening...

I never thought a stress even it was long term,.. I never it can do so much bad leading to an actual critical physical situation

I don't want to believe it... thinking perhaps the doctors just paranoid... It can't be..


لدي أمل 13-07-2011 12:14 PM

Ignore the mistakes.. Seem to always have to have some sort of mistake typing or talking verbally these days.. Frustrating

ليش لا 13-07-2011 01:51 PM

about my father , i DO hate him . and i hate him too much

and i said it to him a few years ago

? then he said : is there anyone who hates his father

then i said : YES there is , it's me


-------------------------------------------------------


i think that is a good thing for you

because knowing the issue is the first step in the way of improvement

you should follow the doctor's instructions carefully

and you will get better en sha Allah

لدي أمل 14-07-2011 12:51 AM

اقتباس:

? then he said : is there anyone who hates his father

then i said : YES there is , it's me
You seriously said that ((exactly))... !!!!!!!!!!

Strange Sultan

That exactly happened with my father and me word by word letter by letter... If I was to be really honest the feeling of hate overcomes any others... sometimes there are no feeling other than hate..

En sha allah I will get better with some hope and inner power... Things I don't have or LACK

Still doing test though... Have more tomorrow early in the morning... Suppose to meet her too and show her whatever test result I've got so far... For one my stomach endoscopy was very bad for a person in my age.. I knew based on how I felt that there must be something wrong, but I never thought it would be to the degree the results showed

This hormone (Cortisol) has effected a lot of things in it's long term high levels... I wish I knew earlier

Don't want any more bad news from the whole sonar tomorrow.. Concerned about what the blood results will show which wont be done until maybe Sunday otherwise Monday for sure... I feel it's a long time to wait..

See!!! Don't tell me I don't talk too much... I'm so frustrated and irritated these days to where I feel I can talk and complain forever

I must have swallowed a RADIO heh

ليش لا 14-07-2011 01:48 AM

may Allah be with you tomorrow and i wish that you will get better en sha Allah


اقتباس:

See!!! Don't tell me I don't talk too much... I'm so frustrated and irritated these days to where I feel I can talk and complain forever

I must have swallowed a RADIO heh

no don't talk like this

it's ok

you can say whatever you want , whenever you feel like it

if you go to the old pages here

you will see that i was always talking

because it made me feel good



ليش لا 16-07-2011 10:12 AM

miss. hope

i'm worried about you

it has been a few days sence i saw you

لدي أمل 17-07-2011 07:34 AM

Don't know what to say.... I am worried..

Don't know what to think or not think about when it's all important and SICK of hospitals..

I went along with my therapist saying my parents SHOULD/Need to come, and I don't know how I agreed.. It was suppose to be the three of us them and me, but then I backed out... Now I'm getting much more stressed just because of that thinking maybe I need to go regardless of how I DON'T WANT TO AT ALL I'M DONE....., but I feel there might be misleading, misunderstanding, or not enough clarity if I am not there to speak for myself and let the therapist actually see how my father is with me...

I really don't want to go, and I had made a decision that I wasn't going already... Having second thoughts.. Don't know what to decide.. The not wanting to go, and that hate/regret for the whole idea of having them go to my therapist overcomes by far what should be done which is deal with and go..

Tired and things are getting worse... Spending lots of time in hospitals and haven't heard anything comforting to my ears.. I'm giving the illusion to myself that I'm better by taking more care of how I look to act/lie to myself that it's a wonderful perfect day and everything is fine... Theres nothing wrong right!? It's just a bad dream... My family gets puzzled though thinking I'm in a better mood. but it's just an act... clothes, hair, and make up blah blah blah are easy to use to give the illusion of better good mood

Don't feel like going or caring anymore, but if I don't care who will!!?

Tired

I should be going to the hospital AGAIN very soon now, even though I got back home by 1 AM last night alone from being in the hospital since 9 ... People may wonder why I'm alone, but what can I do that's how it is...

The day before I was out alone and something very scary I was seriously thinking I need urgent help was about to tell strangers around me to call emergencey.. but than the feeling went away but I a lot more tired.aflter still puzzled about what that was terrifying.. I couldn't drive and in crying called my mom to PLEASE come to take to me to the hospital... statyed there for a while did test that weren't going to ready until later 3 hours later... My mother took me back to my car and I was suppose to try to go to a girls party and didn't the energy... Didnt buy a gift or have a clue about to wear nothing! My mother insisted I should go anyway... She said my dad wont care about rules of what time I need to be back home... It wasn't worth arriving at 9 when I needed to be home by 10.. Turns out I had no time as long as I said when I am getting ready to leave... I couldn't believe it.. My dad doesn't care if about that anymore hummm... A got back by 2 AM even though I was in a girls only birthday party in a safe environment I felt like I have committed a crime for coming back so late as if I was a bad girl.. My dad was sleeping heh with no care or worry... Couldn't believe it because he is or used to be VERY VERY VERY strict..

need 2 go

ليش لا 17-07-2011 08:05 AM

_____________________________________


it's nice to see you miss. hope


i think you should go to the therapist with your parents

because she will know how your parents treet you even if they

. didn't say or do anything


waht did the dotor told you when you went to the hospital



is there any improvment

_____________________________________

لدي أمل 18-07-2011 08:04 AM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة ليش لا (المشاركة 675730)
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it's nice to see you miss. hope


i think you should go to the therapist with your parents

because she (He) will know how your parents treat you even if they

. didn't say or do anything

I know which is mainly the only reason why I might go with a 75% chance, even though I had already decided that I wasn't going to no matter what.. I wasn't going to go with them nor even for me anymore.. I feel I'm over, and had enough.. what's the use... I don't see hope... I'm trying to, but I'm feeling/seeing it near or far..


what did the doctor tell you when you went to the hospital



is there any improvement

Well,..... We don't know the whole picture because we don't have all the test results back yet! We know I have an issue with my liver, stomach, and uterus... In regards to my liver theres nothing to do about it hopefully it just doesn't cause issues when I get older... She doesn't think it is the cause of any of my current issues/symptoms as long as I don't start feeling pain towards where the liver is located... The stomach she didn't say what will be done about it because she wants to see the biopsy they took from the inside my stomach to see what the lab says.., but there's still is an issue with the walls/lining of my stomach.. Also with blood vessels on the lining of my stomach can start bleeding too cause there's an issues with them... If the biopsy shows I have H. pylori bacteria than even worse...

You see I have what is called
Gastritis since I was 14 yrs old or younger it occurs when the lining of the stomach becomes inflamed or irrited. NOW I also have Erythematous gastritis occurs when there is redness of the skin because of dilation of blood vessels. In some cases, it is a normal response due to inflammation and can heal with treatment. In addition, It was found I have exudative gastritis: discharge of certain elements of the blood into the tissues due to rashes and swelling of the lining of the stomach... If the biopsy sent to the lab is positive meaning I have an infection called Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori) than it's worse.. Why!!? Because H. pylori is the bacteria responsible for most ulcers and stomach inflammation (chronic gastritis). It can weaken the protective coating of the stomach, allowing digestive juices to irritate the sensitive stomach lining... I had this bacteria before when I was 14 yrs with regular gastritis and the bacteria was treated, but the gastritis is a long term thing so it stayed... Every since around age 14 I used to take the same medications every morning to manage the gastritis and I would be ok... Now no medicine is working...

I need local surgery for something else... Also a laparoscopic surgery for my uterus. I had something before that was surgically removed, but seems to have came back... I'm angry.. Which means I need to get admitted and go under full anesthesia again for something reoccurring that I removed 6 yrs ago... I need to get an appointment for an MRI though first because an ultrasound wasn't enough... They know it's back, but the question is where.. If they can't see through the MRI than I will just need to do the surgery and they will just need to search for it then at the time.. First time they removed it didn't show by eye on test until the surgery itself.., but it most likely there.. More than one doctor (3 exactly) said I need to do the surgery.. What is being done is trying to see where it is before scheduling a surgery....
Also I need the other surgery which would just be local without staying in the hospital.. I rather not say what the local surgery is for.. I don't want to do it, and I asked a thousand times if it is really absolutely necessary and the answer was yes... :(

That's all I know... I got a lot of blood test results yesterday, but didn't show them to the doctor yet.. , but from looking at the normal rang near the results I see some highs and lows.. My hemoglobin is high.. I don't if she will say it's ok because it's not very high.. I'm low in sugar... blah blah blah... I don't want to think about it... I'll just see what she says

I didn't even go to the hospital yesterday, I ended up feeling too tired... I need to force myself to go today though... I wont see the doctor until the biopsy is done and that will take time.. I did it on Thursday, and they said it will take a week to two weeks for the biopsy lab result..

So my liver, more than one thing with my stomach as I explained, uterus = surgery, and local surgery for something else.. The blood tests aren't ok, but I'll let the doctor to make the assessment of how good or bad is it between my high and low results for a few things here and there... I am not a doctor so I can only look at the normal range and compare...

Tomorrow is the day my parents will go to my therapist... Maybe me too.., MAYBE!!.. That's all I'm thinking about today it's going to make me sick worrying about it... Calculating the hours.. I keep on asking them are you going still!! Are you sure u want to go!? Hoping will change there mind.. How in the WORLD did I agree for this meeting tomorrow.. The right is for me to be there too... Hopefully we all remain calm.. We can kill each other heh metaphorically speaking.. Seriously... My father can easily get out of control... My dad and me are like gas and fire... I can imagine it easily turning into a zoo or a place for a butcher... I'm trying to joke about it, but it's not funny...

HOPEFULLY, we all remain calm civilized mature adults tomorrow.. We get in huge fights lately...

I don't think any good will come out of it , but I'm giving it a chance... I would have never done this years ago no matter what the circumstances were.. Still don't know HOW I agreed... Shocked myself later thinking wait!? what did I get myself in to no : S ... Too late to cancel... My father is a very difficult complex extremely negative doubtful deceiving person and the list can go on... I can't and refuse to even try to remain calm dealing with him.. He makes soooo angry... I don't care if I get kicked out, I barely care about that.. I have zero respect for him... I feel it's just a situation awaiting to happen especially if I am in the picture.... even if I was calm..

Ignore all this extra non sense talk... Feel like I'm going to war instead of to make things better

We'll see what happens


ليش لا 19-07-2011 12:33 AM

hi miss. hope

first , i can only pray for you to get better en sha Allah

and please let me know about the results


second , i'm positive that going to the therapist along with your parents

is a good thing for you , even you fight each other there



third , it seems that we share somethings together

when you said that you have zero respect for your father

it's like you were repeating my exact words

i mean , i'm always saying thing like this about him

but , what can i do ? this is the nature of life and we have to fight in order to have some peace

لدي أمل 19-07-2011 01:06 AM

It's not right or ok to have zero respect for parents though

The religion says it's not right.. We should always treat them with respect any elderly in fact... That's how it should be.. We have zero respect, but we will be accountable for that zero respect on judgement day

I try to, but it's easy said than actually done... Talk is easy... ACT is much stronger and weighs much more... WORDS actually mean nothing in comparison to act

Eight more hrs before I need to start getting to go IN MY OWN CAR... Giving myself an hour of me morning time not going to rush cause I am already nervous... Than an hour just for the road unless I want to speed and rush...

I will meet them there.. Their alone and I'm alone

ليش لا 19-07-2011 06:02 AM

i know it's not right and it's not acceptable for us as sons and daughters

. to treat our parents or one of them in that way

. however , it's not their right either to treat us in badly just because they are our parents

i know it's not our place to judge them , but what can i do

. i have been trying every possible way to make things better with my father , and i always fail


by the way , yesterday i wanted to tell you that i know some good doctors and therapist here

. so if you want , i can the clinic's number


i wish you the best of luck

لدي أمل 19-07-2011 07:57 PM

I wish I had more to say than what I am about to say about your father, but I had a very bad day in relation to my father partially as today was the day they went to my therapist.. I went too.. (it was mainly the worse thing about the day but turned into partially due to a memory marking shocking situation afterwards which wins for being the main bad thing)..

Hopefully ONE DAY you will succeed in making things better with your father.. If it changes to the better little by little that's still ok despite the slowness, just don't close doors on almost everything giving up.. I have closed and locked doors on so much even between me and myself... Something is better than nothing so keep the effort going with your father, it's something that deserves time, energy, and effort put into it... I think sometimes in a all or nothing way about things, but you can't think this way with these types of things

About the clinic.. I am not in search for a good therapist... The therapist I have is very good, I have no complaints.. I could score him even better than very good... I'm the issue ME ME ME :( .. I feel so sorry for anyone who has to deal with me especially NOW... I can imagine I do make people frustrated.. I can't handle/stand myself for quite a long time lately.. It's just getting worse.. I can't/wont face anything anymore... I feel I'm barely standing heh if my state is even called standing,.. it's more like falling repeatively.. so I get worried I cant bare ANYMORE pain as a reasult of facing things.. I worry I will lose myself and I don't want that.. I scared to death about losing myself... I feel I feel enough pain already that I can't manage hardly so I don't want MORE!!!! Even if it's temporarily.. Also building things up more and more isn't a solution.. I wish there was a middle road... My Mom says you've become the specially of building walls.. She thought I wasn't that even when talking with my therapist which she didn't like as she saw herself today... It has nothing to do with him though or trust matters.. I wasn't like this before.. Stuck in my own web.. I'm really struggling.. Something happened today that will NEVER NEVER NEVER be erased from my memory.. Kinda don't know what meaning thought feeling reaction to give the situation pushing it to yet another closet in hope for it JUST not cross my mind :'(

Your in Riyadh right? I ask because I'm not in Saudi Arabia, but in another gulf country... I would have wondered what the number is for doctors physical wise not psychologically, but were not living in the same area.. I don't think so Sultan

I feel on this page like I'm a selfish person because I just talk about me me me... I like to try to be supportive to whose supportive to me in whatever circumstances/settings allow me to be supportive as well or at least a listening ear even if it seems like nothing but you never know sometimes little things do a lot, BUT all I do is talk about myself here too much...

Feel FREE to talk too Sultan it doesn't bother me actually it will take my mind off myself I have a lot of free time.. A lot of free time in my world is bad for me.. I'm happier when I have things to do to fill my time up.. All this time after graduating is starting to feel like death or suffocation.. I stopped thinking about cancelling the job because I will go out of my mind if end up having even longer time with Nothing to do.. Day time job doesn't even feel like enough.. I want something similar a having more than a few classes in univ. where you go to class, but your work doesn't end because you have things to do home a lot for those classes.... You Know What I Mean!!? Boredom and too much time to just think more and more with hardly zero to nothing to do with your time isn't a good thing.. I don't think I can consider myself the type of person who can function that way

المشتاق الى الجنة 19-07-2011 09:54 PM

why not

where ar u

we miss u so much

لدي أمل 19-07-2011 10:01 PM

Kareem are you talking to me or Sultan?

If your talking to me... Why not about what?

I'm sorry I don't understand

المشتاق الى الجنة 19-07-2011 10:10 PM

hhhhhhhhhhhhhh

ur comment make me laughing

no i talk to why not lish la

how ar u i hav a hop

ليش لا 19-07-2011 10:28 PM

hi miss. hope

hi mr. kreem


i'll be back soon en sha Allah

ليش لا 19-07-2011 11:49 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة لدي أمل (المشاركة 676197)
I wish I had more to say than what I am about to say about your father, but I had a very bad day in relation to my father partially as today was the day they went to my therapist.. I went too.. (it was mainly the worse thing about the day but turned into partially due to a memory marking shocking situation afterwards which wins for being the main bad thing)..

Hopefully ONE DAY you will succeed in making things better with your father.. If it changes to the better little by little that's still ok despite the slowness, just don't close doors on almost everything giving up.. I have closed and locked doors on so much even between me and myself... Something is better than nothing so keep the effort going with your father, it's something that deserves time, energy, and effort put into it... I think sometimes in a all or nothing way about things, but you can't think this way with these types of things

well , i really hope so but let's be realistic , it seems impossible

About the clinic.. I am not in search for a good therapist... The therapist I have is very good, I have no complaints.. I could score him even better than very good... I'm the issue ME ME ME :( .. I feel so sorry for anyone who has to deal with me especially NOW... I can imagine I do make people frustrated.. I can't handle/stand myself for quite a long time lately.. It's just getting worse.. I can't/wont face anything anymore... I feel I'm barely standing heh if my state is even called standing,.. it's more like falling repeatively.. so I get worried I cant bare ANYMORE pain as a reasult of facing things.. I worry I will lose myself and I don't want that.. I scared to death about losing myself... I feel I feel enough pain already that I can't manage hardly so I don't want MORE!!!! Even if it's temporarily.. Also building things up more and more isn't a solution.. I wish there was a middle road... My Mom says you've become the specially of building walls.. She thought I wasn't that even when talking with my therapist which she didn't like as she saw herself today... It has nothing to do with him though or trust matters.. I wasn't like this before.. Stuck in my own web.. I'm really struggling.. Something happened today that will NEVER NEVER NEVER be erased from my memory.. Kinda don't know what meaning thought feeling reaction to give the situation pushing it to yet another closet in hope for it JUST not cross my mind :'(

. it's ok to seek help from other people . it's part of the nature of life

i used to feel like you , but know i say : i will repay their help

. by trying to help them whenever they need any help

? "but what do you really mean by "building walls


Your in Riyadh right? I ask because I'm not in Saudi Arabia, but in another gulf country... I would have wondered what the number is for doctors physical wise not psychologically, but were not living in the same area.. I don't think so Sultan

:) yes i'm in riyadh , i thought you were living in another city . hahaha

people in the Gulf Countries are our brothers and sisters

it's like we are in one big country


I feel on this page like I'm a selfish person because I just talk about me me me... I like to try to be supportive to whose supportive to me in whatever circumstances/settings allow me to be supportive as well or at least a listening ear even if it seems like nothing but you never know sometimes little things do a lot, BUT all I do is talk about myself here too much...

no , you are far from being selfish

i'm very glad to speak to you here

. i can barely call myself supportive to you because i'm not able to help you

i will talk to you when i feel like talking

you are like a sister to me


Feel FREE to talk too Sultan it doesn't bother me actually it will take my mind off myself I have a lot of free time.. A lot of free time in my world is bad for me.. I'm happier when I have things to do to fill my time up.. All this time after graduating is starting to feel like death or suffocation.. I stopped thinking about cancelling the job because I will go out of my mind if end up having even longer time with Nothing to do.. Day time job doesn't even feel like enough.. I want something similar a having more than a few classes in univ. where you go to class, but your work doesn't end because you have things to do home a lot for those classes.... You Know What I Mean!!? Boredom and too much time to just think more and more with hardly zero to nothing to do with your time isn't a good thing.. I don't think I can consider myself the type of person who can function that way


mmmmm

? why don't you join a gym

exercises and swimming are very affective in such situations

? what do you think about it




لدي أمل 20-07-2011 10:06 PM

Sultan... I'll get back to you soon.. It's weird you've said you've said...

I'm silently laughing.. wondering.. thinking

Hummm

Well,.. I've got to go my mother wants me to take her to get a few things so C ya soon

ليش لا 21-07-2011 07:08 PM

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Sultan... I'll get back to you soon.. It's weird you've said you've said...

I'm silently laughing.. wondering.. thinking

Hummm

Well,.. I've got to go my mother wants me to take her to get a few things so C ya soon


ok

but i didn't understand what you were saying

لدي أمل 23-07-2011 01:02 AM

I know it only makes sense or meaning to me.. I was talking to myself haha.. you kind of sounded like another person though in a few things... coincidental

لدي أمل 23-07-2011 01:52 AM

اقتباس:

I wish I had more to say than what I am about to say about your father, but I had a very bad day in relation to my father partially as today was the day they went to my therapist.. I went too.. (it was mainly the worse thing about the day but turned into partially due to a memory marking shocking situation afterwards which wins for being the main bad thing)..

Hopefully ONE DAY you will succeed in making things better with your father.. If it changes to the better little by little that's still ok despite the slowness, just don't close doors on almost everything giving up.. I have closed and locked doors on so much even between me and myself... Something is better than nothing so keep the effort going with your father, it's something that deserves time, energy, and effort put into it... I think sometimes in a all or nothing way about things, but you can't think this way with these types of things

well , i really hope so but let's be realistic , it seems impossible

NO... It actually isn't impossible.. We say that, and see it as impossible, because it's our easy way out due to how difficult it seems to deal with in our view.. It's harder if our fathers refuse to cooperate too, and come to their daughters session and say nothing but false facts far from the truth acting like he is the perfect father who wants to be helpful and understanding... People think you are the issue to make it worse, because they don't know how much acting and lying your father is doing.. Wouldn't that make you angry?!

About the clinic.. I am not in search for a good therapist... The therapist I have is very good, I have no complaints.. I could score him even better than very good... I'm the issue ME ME ME :( .. I feel so sorry for anyone who has to deal with me especially NOW... I can imagine I do make people frustrated.. I can't handle/stand myself for quite a long time lately.. It's just getting worse.. I can't/wont face anything anymore... I feel I'm barely standing heh if my state is even called standing,.. it's more like falling repeatively.. so I get worried I cant bare ANYMORE pain as a reasult of facing things.. I worry I will lose myself and I don't want that.. I scared to death about losing myself... I feel I feel enough pain already that I can't manage hardly so I don't want MORE!!!! Even if it's temporarily.. Also building things up more and more isn't a solution.. I wish there was a middle road... My Mom says you've become the specially of building walls.. She thought I wasn't that even when talking with my therapist which she didn't like as she saw herself today... It has nothing to do with him though or trust matters.. I wasn't like this before.. Stuck in my own web.. I'm really struggling.. Something happened today that will NEVER NEVER NEVER be erased from my memory.. Kinda don't know what meaning thought feeling reaction to give the situation pushing it to yet another closet in hope for it JUST not cross my mind :'(

. it's ok to seek help from other people . it's part of the nature of life

i used to feel like you , but know i say : i will repay their help

. by trying to help them whenever they need any help

? "but what do you really mean by "building walls

mmmm I think the meaning is clear.. I don't what you want me to say..

My Mom thinks I am putting

حواجز

up all the time

Explain Sultan, because I don't know what your asking about.. Is it why I am building walls or it wasn't clear exactly in English which I translated!!? Doubt you didn't understand it though in English..

What is it you are really asking???


Your in Riyadh right? I ask because I'm not in Saudi Arabia, but in another gulf country... I would have wondered what the number is for doctors physical wise not psychologically, but were not living in the same area.. I don't think so Sultan

:) yes i'm in riyadh , i thought you were living in another city . hahaha

people in the Gulf Countries are our brothers and sisters

it's like we are in one big country

Yes you can say that true

I feel on this page like I'm a selfish person because I just talk about me me me... I like to try to be supportive to whose supportive to me in whatever circumstances/settings allow me to be supportive as well or at least a listening ear even if it seems like nothing but you never know sometimes little things do a lot, BUT all I do is talk about myself here too much...

no , you are far from being selfish

i'm very glad to speak to you here

. i can barely call myself supportive to you because i'm not able to help you

I will comment by saying: People don't realize how little things can matter, and make a difference

I pay attention to the smallll things , and I am not a greedy person.. I am simple.., unless it has something to do with life ambitions than I am very greedy heh wont take the least.. Otherwise I'm quite a simple person..

The only thing I feel I'm very complicated in is how my brain works or wants to understand everything trying to break up everything.. Even perhaps breaking up the unbreakable.. I feel sometimes like I'm like children when they ask questions that have no answers.. That's me.. I get very frustrated if I can't understand something or find something or conclusion, ...., ..... etc VERY frustrated.. My mind is too complicated I feel... My mother and cousin even older gone friends say this about me.. It's bother them.. My nature is very detailed and analytic with demand to answers and understanding... I can't stand confusion and lack of understanding.. It's drives absolutely crazy



i will talk to you when i feel like talking

you are like a sister to me

Thank you.. Feel free


Feel FREE to talk too Sultan it doesn't bother me actually it will take my mind off myself I have a lot of free time.. A lot of free time in my world is bad for me.. I'm happier when I have things to do to fill my time up.. All this time after graduating is starting to feel like death or suffocation.. I stopped thinking about cancelling the job because I will go out of my mind if end up having even longer time with Nothing to do.. Day time job doesn't even feel like enough.. I want something similar a having more than a few classes in univ. where you go to class, but your work doesn't end because you have things to do home a lot for those classes.... You Know What I Mean!!? Boredom and too much time to just think more and more with hardly zero to nothing to do with your time isn't a good thing.. I don't think I can consider myself the type of person who can function that way


mmmmm

? why don't you join a gym

exercises and swimming are very affective in such situations

? what do you think about it

First, my father disagreeing.. He says why go outside we have an exercise machine here in the house which he will make fun who ever uses it unless it's him or my brother...

Second, I prefer outdoors anyway... I like to walk on the beach or like near it.. The weather is too too hot now though...

Third, I can't exercise whenever I want to these days, because a lot of the times these days I feel light headed or dizzy or very tired and exhausted physically...

Forth, I am realizing and others have like my cousin and mom that I have changed a lot physically even though I haven't been exercising..

They say I walk much faster like I'm in hurry.. Faster than what they can comfortable walk along with me... Yesterday, I went to the biggest mall we have here and walked from the begaining to the end in quick walking twice.. My cousin hasn't seen me for about a month, and is about 7 yrs younger.. She said please please slow down my chest is starting to hurt and I feel my muscles are pulling in the bottom of my feet.. She said whats happened to you you didn't walk like this before.. It felt normal to me and I felt ok.. I didn't feel dizzy, light headed , or really tired and exhausted so it was ok and natural to me.. My Mother said something similar a few days before... I lot of these days I feel so angry making me full of energy to where I walk or do things as if I'm in a rush sometimes, because I'm feel I'm full with rage... Do you know that feeling??! If I'm slow these days after all the weight I've lost 16+ kg it's because I'm not feeling good which also happens a lot.. Before I lost weight I could move the same why, but I would be very tired afterwards as an result, but now

Good days and bad days... So in conclusion I don't want a gym.. It's indoor boring.. Don't feel like I need a gym necessarily in order to move either





لدي أمل 26-07-2011 08:55 AM

Laish lah

I haven't heard from you for a while now which is not like you! You are usually around and active in the forum

Well,... hope all is good, and your just busy

I'm actually in a good mood today.. In two days I hit the hardest I have and stayed silent in my room for all that time, was quit worried going crazy with crazy stupid dangerous thoughts/plans at the tip on my finger about to really stupidly commit as if it was truly a logical solution, but I didn't.. I got quit fearful with no trust in myself with the way I have been thinking in my moods lately which was it's worst I can EVER recall later in the day on Sunday to be exact..A sudden huge mood shit to the worser... Mostly the lack of care for whats right anymore for my good and being sick of everything including anything in relation to people... ...

Strangely I also think in that little time a transformation has happened.. A totally different attitude, mmm not totally but a lot different than the before attitude .. Seeing hope AT LAST AGAIN...

Hoping I don't lose this.. Want it so bad so strongly.. Don't want to lose track backwards.. The point I got to was horrible horrible horrible lifeless hopeless ,....,...etc A dead walking person who wanted nothing nothing of life, but an exit out of it instead of back to it.. Thats how I describe it

If I allow myself to got back to that darkness I will be very upset, but no one to blame but me

Some thoughts of that dark time still remain, and I feel they ARE a reality not be just me being negative

For one, my thoughts of my family haven't changed, don't believe for a second that any of what what I'm thinking is exaggeration... It's does make me quite extremely silently angry for someone to say what I say in regards to my family is an exaggeration... I thought over it repetitively in doubt of myself maybe yes I'm wrong, and no I don't think so.. It's isn't an exaggeration... Still angry actually, but don't wish to argue... I'll just consider that one comment as an individuals personal opinion.. My angry will ware off I know, because I don't hold grudges easily towards people, by far I don't.. A person has to have done a lot or something quite huge in order for me to hold a grudge.. I think that's actually a bad thing in a way, because then in result a forgive too much and SOME not all take advantage of that.. Maybe I'm too kind.. I know I can be being a big hearted person manage to find excuses for people letting things pass and then something happens.. It's a pattern actually that's is repeating itself and has happened many times before with a significant number of people in my past.. Well, I wont worry about it, I guess allah will deal with them.. Right!? Why Should I care? Doesn't mean I want the pattern to keep on replying, but I wont worry only under certain circumstances.. You can't know what's going on in everyone's mind no matter how much you want to or try it isn't always possible.. You can build assumptions or believe of what may or just may not be, but sometimes you will just never know.. Time will simply always (most of the time) will show somehow what things are.. Wouldn't it be nice if what someone was thinking would be written on their forehead, or everything was just clear and direct with honesty... Of course a lot of people don't like that, but I think from my past I've gotten quite used to hearing direct true things to the point I'm numb to getting shocked.. I do go nuts if I have to think for myself trying to understand something ... whys and hows?? I have one particular friend who has won in blowing my mind away with what she would boldly throw at me.. I don't think I was ever that shocked in my life like the shock she gave me... She did that so many times to where I really think I've managed to create an immunity..

On this earth I guess you need to expect the unexpected the bast you can... Theres nothing more than the best you can

You see I can go on and go talking from one thing to another like I'm talk deprived... I exceeded the time I had to reply because I seriously need to get things done that just can't hold like they are, therefor I have no time to look over what I wrote, so I hope I have no mistakes and everything's clear..

Sultan, I hope your ok, and that we'll hear from you soon inshallah

ليش لا 29-07-2011 11:43 AM

good morning miss. hope
how are you ? i hope that you are feeling good
in the past view days i had some problems in my internet connection
and that's why i wasn't able to be here
.so, tell me what's going on with you these days
? me ? my father is threatening to kick me and my brother out of the house . can you believe it
Actualy i'm happey because that will be a prove against him and everyone will know the truth about him

لدي أمل 31-07-2011 05:27 AM

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good morning miss. hope
how are you ? i hope that you are feeling good

in the past view days i had some problems in my internet connection
and that's why i wasn't able to be here

Don't worry about it.. It's okay.. It's just internet connections right! What can you do until the issue is fixed... So no problem

.so, tell me what's going on with you these days

? me ? my father is threatening to kick me and my brother out of the house . can you believe it

Yes I can believe it... Everythings possible... Even the unexpected.. You never know.. ... Even what we could have never imagined could happen or could/would happen to us... Everything and Anything is possible... SO yes I DO

Actualy i'm happey because that will be a prove against him and everyone will know the truth about him

The question is are you sure this would be the right action to take? What happened for him to threaten you? Things don't happen for no reason?! If you don't mind me asking why do you and your brother have a poor relationship with your father to start with? Where did it all start? Could you explain

Don't get happy and make a quick decision without a lot of thought of whether just leaving would be RIGHT thing rather then trying to solve what issues you have between you and your father...

I can't say much, because I don't know anything about the details of anything... nothing..

I would think of living apart as a last resort... That would be after long long long thinking and weighing things... You need to think about the FUTURE too..as a whole how would it be?? Don't leave anything out... Leaving or staying in the house will reflect on the future.. Don't just think about yourself either when you about the future.. No matter how hard it may be to believe he does care about you even if he shows ZERO care and acts as if he is your worst enemy.. I don't think he would want to have nothing to do with you forever if you leave the house... He still and will always be your father... We can't change our parents... We have ONE father and ONE mother for the rest of our lives... You can't leave and break all connections for the rest of your life after that.... He is your father

On the other hand, if more positive will come out of you leaving the house including your relationship with him...then I would say maybe.. I say maybe because I don't what happened for this to happen or anything about why do you have trouble together before his threat...from the start why!? The history shall I say... That is also your personal information and I wont intrude or push.. It's not my place.. I have no grounds unless you on your own choose to elaborate..


Another important thing... You are a student Sultan... Is your brother a student too? How will you live on your own? Where would your income come from? How would you support yourself?

Where is your mother in the picture or is she not in the picture? Do you have sisters? Older siblings?


Are you in the house still or out??


What has happened since your post?

By the way, Ramadan Mubarak...






ليش لا 02-08-2011 02:31 PM

hi miss. hope , i really didn't notic your comment until now . sorry

اقتباس:

The question is are you sure this would be the right action to take? What happened for him to threaten you? Things don't happen for no reason?! If you don't mind me asking why do you and your brother have a poor relationship with your father to start with? Where did it all start? Could you explain

it doesn't matter if i'm right or not , because i'm not going to have any options when he kicks me out
look , the problem started way back "years ago" we simply hate him because he is treating us like he owns us
i'll tell you one story as an example
when i was 8 or 7 years old i told my father to buy me a ball to play with , but he didn't answer me
then i told him again but he didn't answer me as well . then i told him please buy me a ball
then he grab an iron stick "pipe" and hit me as hard as he could by that iron stick . and i was 7 years old only
. i raised my hands to protect myself , the first blow hit my right hand . and now i have a permanent scar in my hand
so , now i think you have an idea about what kind of a person he is
. one year ago i decided that i had enough from him then we fought each other and i told him i despises him and i will never speak to him ever again
. and since that day i didn't speak to him . but these days my brother is also ignoring him and this is driving him crazy
: To answer your questions
yes my brother is a student and we are still in the house . my mother is upset but she can't do anything because my father never listens to her

ليش لا 02-08-2011 02:33 PM

and Ramadan Mubarak to you too

:)

ليش لا 05-08-2011 12:48 PM

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لدي أمل 05-08-2011 03:17 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة ليش لا (المشاركة 681467)
Before you read this please keep in mind that even though there's a big possibly you may think I'm too harsh, insensitive or don't understand.. ,but that isn't my intention behind what I have said in reply to you and said straight out what I had to say.. People don't like that when I do that, but I'm not going to lie or go around in circles.. Being too honest in just speaking my mind tends to get me in trouble sometimes, but I don't have a bad intention and I hope you realize that... I usually get misunderstood.. I am not trying to argue or blame you either, but I am talking with you...



it doesn't matter if i'm right or not , because i'm not going to have any options when he kicks me out
Sometimes it's not about whose right or wrong.. It's about trying to make things right and perhaps sacrificing not just seeing who is right and wrong... I would only say that for close family or people other than family who truly deserve to make a sacrifice for..... Unless you trying to fix the situation with him will just make things worse then maybe moving out would be better.. If it makes things, but if kills whats left of your relationship with and you totally go in your separate ways like strangers then no... If it's because you think it's a hopeless case and you've had enough from him as a reason for welcoming being kicked out instead trying to get to some bottom line or agreement.... well forgive me but I will say my true opinion..but in that case I would you might be looking for an easy way out... Some things in life just DO need sooo much effort even after you feel what else can give or what more... How much harder.., but thats life and your relationship with your father is something I feel you should fight for...He is your blood and flesh... ummm you wouldnt be here today if it wasnt for your mother and father... If you had another father there wouldn't be a sultan...

look , the problem started way back "years ago" we simply hate him because he is treating us like he owns us
i'll tell you one story as an example
when i was 8 or 7 years old i told my father to buy me a ball to play with , but he didn't answer me
then i told him again but he didn't answer me as well . then i told him please buy me a ball
then he grab an iron stick "pipe" and hit me as hard as he could by that iron stick . and i was 7 years old only
. i raised my hands to protect myself , the first blow hit my right hand . and now i have a permanent scar in my hand
so , now i think you have an idea about what kind of a person he is

Yes I do... Yes what he did isn't acceptable...not all Call me crazy but I will ask you the following... Hasn't your experiences with him made you a different person in any good way?? Let me explain more.... If you had a perfect father or just a father who had nothing to do with and just gave you money.. this is an example ok... Bottom line a father that didn't give such touble and you had a stable or near stable family how would you have turned out?? Our experiences create us whether their bad or good... Some people because they've had an easy life they may mature late or almost never, they don't understand life, they don't know what difficult can truly be, they may lack understanding to how others may feel because they've only been through baby stuff, if they even have a true difficult or near that they may not know how to handle it at all like it's the end of the world when it may not be a true difficult situation,.....,.....etc Shall I go on, I can make the list longer.... Do you get my point.....???? so do you think your experiences haven't served you any good in how it built and made you as the person you are today?? Actually as harsh this MAY sound the more difficult things we live and go through starting from a younger age.. the more capableable we are later in life to survives or deal with things, ....,....etc Some people say if your in your twenties your young and you don't know what life's about or how difficult it can be or how deceiving people can be... Making the comment that only the older you get the wiser and the more you grow.... Not true... You don't grow by how old you are in years... A number how old your in my opinion is meaningless... It means zero... You don't grow necessarily by how many years you've lived since you were born... Its by your experiences... How rich are they.. How much have you seen, experienced, and lived....
The other question is can you not stand your father so much to the point if something big laqadar allah happened to him and he is very sick in hospital for an example would you think good he deserves it... I don't care...

If your to find out that suddenly he is gone laqadar allah something tragic happened and he unexpectedly died... how would you feel? Will you be satisfied about your acting and way of dealing with him today.... What would go on in your mind.... You never know when it's the last time you will see anyone... You should always act like there's no tomorrow!!!! You never know....

. one year ago i decided that i had enough from him then we fought each other and i told him i despises him and i will never speak to him ever again
. and since that day i didn't speak to him . but these days my brother is also ignoring him and this is driving him crazy

In that I don't blame him... How would you feel if you had two sons living under your roof who didn't talk to you... And you since a year ago!!! Always try to put yourself in others peoples place try to imagine how it would be or how they feel or think... For anyone... Put yourself in his place... You probably think he deserve his sons not talking to him or he caused that problem by his own hands... Try to give him a chance... Ignoring someone isn't the solution... He is your father not a stranger who you don't like how he treated you... Ignoring is making no effort and again taking the easy way out... It would much harder the other way wouldn't it??!! Guess what it isn't the solution and it made things worse... Running from difficulties never is the answer... On the contrary... You probably didn't want to struggle anymore had enough and said thats it I'm not talking to him anymore... You can't divorce your parents... Even in marriage you can't just not talk as a solution.... You can't it doesn't resolve things... Ok yes if you say you want space alone for a little I understand, but your saying since a year ago!!!! You exceeded it... You brothers have part in how things have become... It's all him who is responsible all alone...

What would Allah say about this!!! What are parents in religion

Try to give him another chance... I should say this to myself about my parents too actually... Family get chances... Outside family will I usually give them out like candy heh to people who really know me.. meaning not stranger or people I barely know... I always try to search and find so excuse giving chances for free until I seriously got hurt once, but that person she really didn't deserve it and did COST me an experience I will never forget... I still find myself doing that same thing heh... The point is parents and immediate family have what I will call the card of another chance... Being in the position of a Mother, father, sister, and brother is enough... UNLESS they have done something really really really big... I something really so wrong... I mean extremely...

Did you try to think why
is he the way he is? Did ever try to think how he became the way he is? He wasn't born the way he is!!!!!

Has he done something huge that soooo wrong to your brother and you.. that like a taboo or something? You said one example!

: To answer your questions
yes my brother is a student and we are still in the house . my mother is upset but she can't do anything because my father never listens to her

Humm... so I wonder how you think or plan to live totally on your own....



ليش لا 05-08-2011 05:35 PM

اقتباس:

Yes I do... Yes what he did isn't acceptable...not all Call me crazy but I will ask you the following... Hasn't your experiences with him made you a different person in any good way?? Let me explain more.... If you had a perfect father or just a father who had nothing to do with and just gave you money.. this is an example ok... Bottom line a father that didn't give such touble and you had a stable or near stable family how would you have turned out?? Our experiences create us whether their bad or good... Some people because they've had an easy life they may mature late or almost never, they don't understand life, they don't know what difficult can truly be, they may lack understanding to how others may feel because they've only been through baby stuff, if they even have a true difficult or near that they may not know how to handle it at all like it's the end of the world when it may not be a true difficult situation,.....,.....etc Shall I go on, I can make the list longer.... Do you get my point.....???? so do you think your experiences haven't served you any good in how it built and made you as the person you are today?? Actually as harsh this MAY sound the more difficult things we live and go through starting from a younger age.. the more capableable we are later in life to survives or deal with things, ....,....etc Some people say if your in your twenties your young and you don't know what life's about or how difficult it can be or how deceiving people can be... Making the comment that only the older you get the wiser and the more you grow.... Not true... You don't grow by how old you are in years... A number how old your in my opinion is meaningless... It means zero... You don't grow necessarily by how many years you've lived since you were born... Its by your experiences... How rich are they.. How much have you seen, experienced, and lived....


Are you saying that i should be happy about how he treated me
and i should thank him too



The other question is can you not stand your father so much to the point if something big laqadar allah happened to him and he is very sick in hospital for an example would you think good he deserves it... I don't care...

If your to find out that suddenly he is gone laqadar allah something tragic happened and he unexpectedly died... how would you feel? Will you be satisfied about your acting and way of dealing with him today.... What would go on in your mind.... You never know when it's the last time you will see anyone... You should always act like there's no tomorrow!!!! You never know....

it really doesn't matter anymore
if something happned to him i will not feel anything . anything at all
call me a devil or a demon , but that is the truth


اقتباس:

In that I don't blame him... How would you feel if you had two sons living under your roof who didn't talk to you... And you since a year ago!!! Always try to put yourself in others peoples place try to imagine how it would be or how they feel or think... For anyone... Put yourself in his place... You probably think he deserve his sons not talking to him or he caused that problem by his own hands... Try to give him a chance... Ignoring someone isn't the solution... He is your father not a stranger who you don't like how he treated you... Ignoring is making no effort and again taking the easy way out... It would much harder the other way wouldn't it??!! Guess what it isn't the solution and it made things worse... Running from difficulties never is the answer... On the contrary... You probably didn't want to struggle anymore had enough and said thats it I'm not talking to him anymore... You can't divorce your parents... Even in marriage you can't just not talk as a solution.... You can't it doesn't resolve things... Ok yes if you say you want space alone for a little I understand, but your saying since a year ago!!!! You exceeded it... You brothers have part in how things have become... It's all him who is responsible all alone

believe me i have tried every possible way to make things better with him , but non of them is working
and don't forget that i'm psychologicaly ill because of him
so , i realized that the only way for me to get better "psychologicaly" is not speakimg to him and just forget him
what eals can i do ? do you want me to keep trying with him until i become completely insane

اقتباس:

Try to give him another chance... I should say this to myself about my parents too actually... Family get chances... Outside family will I usually give them out like candy heh to people who really know me.. meaning not stranger or people I barely know... I always try to search and find so excuse giving chances for free until I seriously got hurt once, but that person she really didn't deserve it and did COST me an experience I will never forget... I still find myself doing that same thing heh... The point is parents and immediate family have what I will call the card of another chance... Being in the position of a Mother, father, sister, and brother is enough... UNLESS they have done something really really really big... I something really so wrong... I mean extremely

i gave him so many chances , but it's all useless
and i get what you are trying to say . the answer is : no


لدي أمل 05-08-2011 06:56 PM

اقتباس:

Are you saying that i should be happy about how he treated me
and i should thank him too
NO, it's not something to be happy about... I was trying to say that it's not all negative

There is nothing good about your personality and who you are that you've gained that maybe wouldn't be in you if you didn't go through what you've been through...nothing??!!

اقتباس:

it really doesn't matter anymore
if something happned to him i will not feel anything . anything at all
call me a devil or a demon , but that is the truth
Are you sure? or are you saying that in anger perhaps.....!! I wont call you a demon nor a devil... You can feel however why you want to feel.. I think though that you feel that way because you let the feeling of hate for him to overcome anything else to where that's whats controlling you, because you have a very high feeling of hate/dislike towards.. Hate sometimes can make you blind and make you take actions later you may regret... or may not... Forgive me, but I don't think you would feel nothing if something was to happen to him... Haven't you ever felt 100% sure about something... lets say even 100 million percent sure and then shocked yourself later finding out no it wasn't how you thought.. Has that happened to you?? if yes.. thats what I believe in regards to you saying you wont feel anything

I've felt that way so many countless times about my father too... I know that feeling very well.. Anger, hate, rage, dislike,...ect are the controllers those times I felt it's doesn't matter... Just want him out of my life

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believe me i have tried every possible way to make things better with him , but non of them is working
and don't forget that i'm psychologicaly ill because of him
so , i realized that the only way for me to get better "psychologicaly" is not speakimg to him and just forget him
what eals can i do ? do you want me to keep trying with him until i become completely insane

Yeah well if my parents acted differently towards a lot of things and my father didn't treat me the way he does I probably wouldn't have had even a quarter of my psychological issues either.... Has not speaking to him truly mad things better? Are you under his threat still? You need to try harder... Crazy !!!.. A comment that makes you angry perhaps..., but seriously try harder... You've totally just gave up

About the insane part... Learn skills to help you cope to stay sane like the way you think (CBT) or learning how to truly do relaxation frequently does help... Those are my main things, but there's more... Remember I was complaining about losing my mind so stressed and in a bad condition to where I would forget my house, streets, what I was outside for,.... etc and I wouldn't recall sometimes until after a while... Not fun... Scary..

I'm not kidding.. You both are students it's not wise to get kicked out at the time.. You need to at least come to some sort of compromise... AT LEAST A COMPROMISE... You have to.. Your almost done with university you can move out when you get a job, but not because Total strangers or to where if you ever need to face each other in the future you can't talk act calmly together without a fight...

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i gave him so many chances , but it's all useless
You still can't give up... No matter how impossible the situation seems or painful it is to push yourself to try still, because you CAN'T stand him.. You can't stop.. It's sound out of the question or crazy, but that's the right thing to do.. Baby things at least to get by... It's doesn't have to be that nice father and son relationship...


What I say may very likely sound crazy or like I just don't understand, but I have the same issue.. My father is the person who has hurt me so much again and again from long long ago a selfish insensitive person cold who can just lose control with anger.. My brother is so precious to him though...I guess I'm the child by mistake that he didn't want.. Wait I was if he tried to divorce my mom while she pregnant and have nothing to do with her... ...I can never forgive him NEVER EVER... But I wont allow myself to act like him and treat him the way he treats me... I try not to I seriously... Just because he does wrong things doesn't mean I have the right to act wrong too towards... Are we mature adults or children! I don't want my hate to take over and it has, but I try to stay aware to when I'm doing that.. I want to be better than him.. If one of us doesn't try something or act right than we well lets just kill each other in a fight to death..

It isn't easy..

المشتاق الى الجنة 05-08-2011 07:06 PM

Mashallah y not and miss hope u speak english fleuntly
i hop too

ليش لا 05-08-2011 08:14 PM

miss. hope
i know it's not easy but i'm done trying . i'm sorry i just can't do it anymore . and i can't imagine myself doin it
? i just want to live my life with absolutely nothing to do with him . is this too much to ask for




by the way , how are you in Ramadan ? i mean with fasting in this hot summer

لدي أمل 07-08-2011 03:37 AM

Kareem with effort and a true want to learn the the language you can be fluent like us

Sultan, well only you can decide and control your future... Only you can be responsible for that no one else.. I wont degrade you for you decision... It's up to you.. If you ever..ever change your mind I'll support you.. I just want to help.. I think you know too even though I may have seemed rough or insensitive or both that's not what my aim is.. I know how it can be

Anyways....

About Ramadan strange you ask in relation to the heat...!! Health is the issue :( Isn't it always hot outside... Super hot more now though.. You get cooked, and don't feel any air conditioner is enough until much later do I feel the effect... I feel wheres the air :) Don't laugh, but I wish sometimes that I could fit in the freezer that way I'll cool down much much quicker when I get home from outside.. In general I get hot easily and want the air conditioner COLD a little above what could be called the average... My Mom and Dad though want it so warm while my brother and I about die

No fasting and heat could be much worse if your were a laborer working outside in the heat directly... I get hot just walking from our front door to my car outside to go out... I hate the heat.. Winter is better... Winter and rain

No it's ok fasting in hot weather, because it's not like your going to set outside under the sun directly... It's just a matter of walking through it from your car into places, and having good car AC... oh and good AC in the places you walk into as well... It's not the end of the world. It's not I'm thrown in the desert with NO shelter I'll survive..

HEALTH is the issue and it's making me upset... I can't fast like I would like... For health related reason.. I WILL when I think I can, BUT :( can't grantee to succeed fasting to end of time before breaking fast... Number one main issue lately I'm struggling a lot with sever pain where if I take nothing I can't even walk a short distance from point A to B.. Forget about the walking it gets really painful... If I don't I will letaraly get stuck somewhere seated until that peroid of pain going away itself in hope it goes soon or my painkiller... At home I will just lay in bed, and I always keep my medicine beside my bed with a bottle of water with something to eat in a small closed bag usually biscuits.. I can't take the painkiller unless I take the stomach meds then wait then eat the finally the painkiller...

I even yesterday just bought a stronger painkiller... The other didn't always work fully sometimes, but enough to where the pain is much less to where I can ignore it if I'm busy with something and NOT walking around a lot.. Feel it more standing don't know why... I needed the stronger one because I don't want to feel disabled because of it.. I want to control it not the other way around.. It didn't only have the issue of not controlling the pain (times more then others), but worked for even less then half a day, because I would exceed the daily total dose possible in that little time as the instructed way of use for acute pain!! I didn't do that exceeding on my own... heh what about the rest of the time!? The rest of the hours of the day.. What I have things to do!

Pain that is bearable during fasting it's ok..., but that not my pain is anymore... With no medication it can get out of control..it's acute.. It will stay this way until I get a surgery scheduled, but theres things that needs to be done before that.. It's not just a matter of setting a date.. I need survive and manage until that time

ليش لا 07-08-2011 03:08 PM

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Sultan, well only you can decide and control your future... Only you can be responsible for that no one else.. I wont degrade you for you decision... It's up to you.. If you ever..ever change your mind I'll support you.. I just want to help.. I think you know too even though I may have seemed rough or insensitive or both that's not what my aim is.. I know how it can be

:) i know that , thanks miss. hope

Anyways....

About Ramadan strange you ask in relation to the heat...!! Health is the issue :( Isn't it always hot outside... Super hot more now though.. You get cooked, and don't feel any air conditioner is enough until much later do I feel the effect... I feel wheres the air :) Don't laugh, but I wish sometimes that I could fit in the freezer that way I'll cool down much much quicker when I get home from outside.. In general I get hot easily and want the air conditioner COLD a little above what could be called the average... My Mom and Dad though want it so warm while my brother and I about die

hhhhhh . tha same here


No fasting and heat could be much worse if your were a laborer working outside in the heat directly... I get hot just walking from our front door to my car outside to go out... I hate the heat.. Winter is better... Winter and rain

yeah . winter is much better . Ramadan will be in winter after 10 years or more

No it's ok fasting in hot weather, because it's not like your going to set outside under the sun directly... It's just a matter of walking through it from your car into places, and having good car AC... oh and good AC in the places you walk into as well... It's not the end of the world. It's not I'm thrown in the desert with NO shelter I'll survive..

hhhhhh . yeah you'r right

HEALTH is the issue and it's making me upset... I can't fast like I would like... For health related reason.. I WILL when I think I can, BUT :( can't grantee to succeed fasting to end of time before breaking fast... Number one main issue lately I'm struggling a lot with sever pain where if I take nothing I can't even walk a short distance from point A to B.. Forget about the walking it gets really painful... If I don't I will letaraly get stuck somewhere seated until that peroid of pain going away itself in hope it goes soon or my painkiller... At home I will just lay in bed, and I always keep my medicine beside my bed with a bottle of water with something to eat in a small closed bag usually biscuits.. I can't take the painkiller unless I take the stomach meds then wait then eat the finally the painkiller...

I even yesterday just bought a stronger painkiller... The other didn't always work fully sometimes, but enough to where the pain is much less to where I can ignore it if I'm busy with something and NOT walking around a lot.. Feel it more standing don't know why... I needed the stronger one because I don't want to feel disabled because of it.. I want to control it not the other way around.. It didn't only have the issue of not controlling the pain (times more then others), but worked for even less then half a day, because I would exceed the daily total dose possible in that little time as the instructed way of use for acute pain!! I didn't do that exceeding on my own... heh what about the rest of the time!? The rest of the hours of the day.. What I have things to do!

Pain that is bearable during fasting it's ok..., but that not my pain is anymore... With no medication it can get out of control..it's acute.. It will stay this way until I get a surgery scheduled, but theres things that needs to be done before that.. It's not just a matter of setting a date.. I need survive and manage until that time

? miss. hope , i want to know what is your illness "if it's ok with you" and why are taking painkillers
? which part of your body is hurting ? why do you need a surgery



ليش لا 18-08-2011 05:08 PM

good evening miss. hope

long time no see

how are you ? i didn't see you in a while

i hope you are okay and everything is working out good for you

المشتاق الى الجنة 25-08-2011 03:46 PM

why not and i hav hope

i miss u

i hope u are good


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